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    December 24, 2012
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hi, everybody. i'm thomas roberts. counting the days and pretty soon it might not be it. the new year and the so-called fiscal cliff. for the record, though, it's about 178 hours away if we're getting down to the wire. that's specifically. how much negotiating can be squeezed in to that little bit of time? new numbers on whether exist consumers are buying less. and just in time for the holiday, a christmas storm expecting to hit the midwest. when, where and how much snoi is expected. we bring the answers in minutes. we start with optimism as a last words that comes to mind
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with the fiscal cliff and with just a week left for talks left, la lawmakers are saying a deal is looking less likely than ever. >> it's a first time i feel it's more likely that we'll go over the cliff than not. and that -- if we allow that to happen it will be the most coloss colossal, consequential act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time. maybe ever in american history because of the immaterial pact on almost every single american. >> what will happen to an average american paycheck in a deal is not reached by january 1st? joining me now, washington bureau correspondent hampton pearson. let's see what the average american will or won't be seeing in their pi check. >> reporter: i'm here for the lump of coal portion of the program. if there's no deal, let's look
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at what happens to tax rates in just seven days and these stats are from the tax policy center. the annual income from somebody in the $50,000 to $75,000, about a $2,400 increase. jumping ahead to $100,000 to $200,000, the average tax increase, $6,600. tacking at that great divide of the wealthy, over $250,000, at least a $11,000 tax hike. over $1 million, more than $254,000. >> hampton, looking at that number, that's for those americans working right now. there are still struggling americans, millions looking for work and what's the fiscal cliff mean for them? >> reporter: okay. we have unemployment at 7.7% last month and mainly went down because people gave up looking for work and jdropped out of th
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job market and out of work six months or longer. 4.8 million americans, they're the folks worried the most about unemployment benefits not extended after the first of the year. >> as we look at that number, that's staggering for so many. we have a "the washington post" poll that indicates 74% of americans support raising taxes on the top earners in this country. with that support there, the presidential mandate of re-election and the fact he ran on raising taxes if he was given a second term, why is there such this stalemate and trepidation in washington, d.c. to get a deal done? >> reporter: how many hours do we have? let me try it this way. there's a group of hard core tea party republicans but democrats say we won because as your poll shows most americans support the president's position on higher taxes on top earners and
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seemingly at this point about leverage rather than compromise, and frankly, a reluctance on both sides to have the first set of fingerprints on significant spending cuts, whether it's defense ovr entitlement program. >> thank you. and merry christmas to you and your team there. >> merry christmas to you guys. >> thank you. in terms of politics and a deal, wyoming senator says he thinks that the white house want it is country to go over the fiscal cliff to give the president leverage. >> when i listen to the president, i think the president is eager to go over the clip for political purposes. i think he sees a political victory at the bottom of the cliff. he gets the additional tax revenue for programs, cut the military which democrats have been calling for for years and he gets to blame republicans for it. >> with me now in studio is democrat gerald nadler. that was john barasso. you are a watchdog for graphics.
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we put up the wrong graphic there. your reaction to the statement there that the president wants the country to go over the fiscal cliff, they think it's for better democratic leverage. >> that's nonsense. the president made extraordinary concessions to the republicans to try to go over -- to try to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. he promoezed that we don't tax -- no tax increase until $400,000, instead of $250,000. he proposed -- he said he would be willing to go with the republican demands for entitlement cuts cutting colas on social security which i think is obnoxious and will not vote for under any circumstances. he made a lot of concessions, too many. the republicans showed, though, when they voted against cutting taxes for 99.8% of americans, because they wouldn't allow taxes to go up for people above
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$1 million, they showed that it's very difficult to do business this w them. >> you said the president made too many concessions. >> i think so. >> were you more a fan of the $250,000 and less than that or -- >> i'm more of a fan of the $250,000 but mainly, mainly i would not vote for a nickel in -- under any circumstances for a nickel in cuts to social security benefits. >> so when we look at that and there are those on the right that say i won't vote for a nickel in revenue and then you coming on saying i won't vote for a nickel less than what people are getting -- >> on social security. that's nothing to did with the deficit. >> but the fact that all of these things need to believe in the grand bargain, sort to speak -- >> they do not. social security shouldn't even be on the table because it is nothing to do with the deficit. doesn't contribute to the deficit. and we're talking about the deficit. why should social security be discussed in that context? >> completely off the table?
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>> absolutely. absolutely. and that was the -- and that was our position during the campaign. social security has nothing to do with the deficit. does not contribute to it. walled off from it. its own trust fund with $2.7 trillion in it at the moment. and the american people by huge majorities say we shouldn't be cutting social security or for that matter medicare benefits. you can cut medicare in ways you don't cut benefits and the hypocrisy of republicans that said that democrats are terrible because they took $716 billion from medicare for obama care and what do we want to do? pocket the cuts and add more. our chief demand is entitlement cuts. medicare and social security. >> talk about the debt ceiling and where this is played in to this conversation. that is coming up in february or supposed to come up in february. john boehner made the offer to take it off the table for a year but i want to show what lindsey
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graham has to say over the weekend on "meet the press." >> the big chance for a big deal is that the debt ceiling. that's when we'll have leverage to turn the country around, prevent it from becoming greece and save social security and medicare and to anybody listening to this program, i'll raise the debt ceiling only if we save medicare and social security from insolvency and prevent this country from becoming greece. >> prevent this country from becoming greece. what is your reaction to that? >> absolute and utter nonsense. this country is not becoming greece. this country -- this country, frankly, has a big unemployment problem. we have a deficit problem in the short term, not the long term. it's not a real problem now. our bonds selling higher than before and lower interest rates. it's not an immediate problem. he's saying what's worse. what he is saying is use blackmail on the entire economy
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like a gangster. pity if it happens to blow up. not increasing the debt ceiling -- >> already did that before. they have done it before. >> they have. >> and will do it again. >> frankly, that is obnoxious beyond belief. the president should not concede or negotiate on that basis at all. >> the president is adamant on the fact that's not a part of this conversation. >> it cannot be a part of any conversation. the debt ceiling is not a question of borrowing more. you determine how much deficit you will have passing the budget two, three, four years ago. >> correct. >> to say you won't raise the debt ceiling is to say you're not going to pay the bills and wreck the economy. increasing the debt ceiling is not optional. we have raised it 77 times since world war ii. seven times in the bush administration. there's always been a demagogue ri but never until last year an attempt to hold the country hostage and the reason in the crisis with the fiscal cliff now is because that's a consequence of the bargain that was made to
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avert the catastrophe of not raising the debt ceiling last year and probably going over the fiscal cliff which, by the way, fixing in it a couple of weeks is not the worst thing in the world. >> retroactive fiscal cliff parachute? >> if it's decent within a few weeks is okay. >> okay. sir, great to see you. happy holidays to you and yours. there are still some dreaming of a white christmas or bracing for tornadoes. may affect holiday travelers from texas to maine. weather channel meteorologist todd santos joins us live from atlanta with more. break it down for us the different systems you're watching and where the harshest weather hits for christmas eve. >> sure thing, thomas. yeah. it's evolving and began this weekend on the west coast with over 50 inches of snowfall in the sierra. watching the snow under the clouds back through western
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colorado and grand junction and then denver later on tonight and this point it's really still in the mountains. tonight and tomorrow, a chance for thunderstorms and eastern texas and southern portions of louisiana. talking more about the severe threat. you notice oklahoma city. even during the morning hours, a mix, switching to snowfall. there's wednesday. areas in purple with a chance of even some freezing rain and might be accumulating freezing rain. southwestern p.a. wednesday in to thursday. again, another big travel day. this is the timing of this system is very difficult. there's a look at it with rain in to southeastern new england. snow interior northeast. how much snow? we're saying high impact event. oklahoma city switching to snow tomorrow morning, 6 to 12 inches in the pink swath in indiana, and indianapolis and some of this snow coming late tonight, a little bit in northern pennsylvania and winds up, there's the total storm forecast
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of 6 to 12 inches. a huge part of interior and northern new england and certainly back in to the add n adirondacks. the thing to really know about is the potential for tornadoes. and it, of course, begins tonight with an isolated threat but working in to tomorrow, christmas day, most people aren't thinking about the weather but make sure you have a way to get the warnings here. everywhere in red, a chance of severe storms. the real potential is gusty winds and the stronging thunderstorms and tornadoes and a few area with southeast texas and louisiana, 5 out of 10 and a 50% chance of a tornado in 50 miles here and central and southern mississippi and alabama, 6 out of 10. a lot of things to watch here. folks along the gulf coast, want you to be attentive to severe weather. >> todd santos, thank you, sir. if it's crazy to call for
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putting police and armed security in the schools to protect the children, then call me crazy. >> the head of the n ra under fire for the call for armed security at schools. what a million moms are saying about that. plus, more gun violence as firefighters are trying to battle a blaze.
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if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our schools to protect our children, then call me crazy. i'll tell you what the american people, i think the american people think it's crazy not to do it. it's the one thing that would keep people safe. >> that's the nra ceo on "meet the press" yesterday doubling down on the call to arm our
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nation's schools and puts him at odds of most americans according to 49% saying it's more important to control gun ownership. 42% favor protecting 2nd amendment rights. i want to bring in shannon watts. as many people watched on friday, not only we saw the first reaction in the press briefing that wane lappeire and pressed and wayne is blaming everything but guns and opposed to any new gun regulation and wants to talk about the other possibilities of video games to hollywood to the media to actually arming schools. is this a point of a pr crisis for the nra, especially logically not to have guns in the discussion at all? >> well, unfortunately, i think
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they know exactly what they're doing. and at the end of the day what they're doing is trying to make a profit and arm everyone in the country and, you know, 80 million moms are not going to let 4 million members of the nra drive the discussion on this. you talk about waking a sleeping giant. i believe the nra has woken a very busy giant and that's the 80 million moms in this country and doing what we do best. we organize and protect. we won't stop until there's common sense gun poll laws at the federal and state level. >> there's an equation that goes in to this and talking about gun regulation as being a punlg factor in all of it, everyone from the left and right brought up whether there's other contributing factors. one senator was on this morning seeming willing to put all of
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these options on the table, but specifically, when it comes to talking beyond gun regulation. take a listen. >> we have to do everything we have. it will include looking at how many bullets do you need in a magazine in a semiautomatic weapon. and we need to talk about xbox 360 and wii and those games and how far down in this to children they're getting. we need to talk about movies and we need to talk about the rating systems. >> does she have a point, shannon? >> absolutely. we live in a very, very violent society. so the answer to that is not to increase the guns we all have. i think there's some distraction of the issue by the nra and they want us to look at other things and we should but that doesn't mean to take our focus off of the issue of gun control. and congress reconvenes on january 3rd. we are putting a huge amount of pressure on congress,
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legislators, on the nra. you can go to the website, 1 million moms for gun control.org right now and sign a petition and people are asking for gun control laws that we have crashed the servers many, many times and we are optimistic that, you know, after not doing anything, after aurora and gabby giffords and virginia tech, we will get some action this time. >> in 2010, the brady center to prevent gun violence gave president obama a "f" rating. do you think that now is the time for the president to be able to -- to control this issue in a more positive direction, when i talk about control this issue, i mean the sentiment and the emotion that goes in to all americans responding to what we saw in newtown. >> you know, i don't think he has a choice with 80 million american moms coming at him. we have done nothing before and hasn't worked. i think the nra and frankly many
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congressmen laid out what they see for us in the country where the bad and good guys are armed and duke it out over our kids' heads. we won't allow that to happen. we won't rest until we see that change. >> shannon watts, nice to see you. thank you. >> thank you. are retail sales diving off the fiscal cliff? we'll talk about how the tax cut debate is impacting the recent christmas shopping economy. and cut! very good. people are always asking me how we make these geico adverts. so we're taking you behind the scenes. this coffee cup, for example, is computer animated. it's not real. geico's customer satisfaction is quite real though. this computer-animated coffee tastes dreadful. geico. 15 minutes could save you 15 % or more on car insurance.
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have put their trust in me. i accept total responsibility and will deal with whatever penalty comes my way in this penalty and ensure that this circumstance is never repeated. crapo's blood alcohol level just over .1 and released on a $1,000 bond and scheduled to return to court january 4th. former president george h.w. bush might be spedding the holiday in the hospital. the 41st president admitted to the hospital late last month with a bronchitis-like cough. doctors thought he would be home in time for christmas. ted kennedy jr. is not running for the u.s. senate seat in massachusetts. he did not want to uproot his family from connecticut and not ruraling out a future run. that's because senator kerry is going to be going on to a cabinet post. a new poll suggesting that americans are less enthusiastic
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of shopping this holiday season. 49% of americans expressing pessimism. joining me now analyst hetha pavulcar. will it's talk about what we're talking about this year. >> right. national retail fed case is expecting the holiday sales at 4.1%, up for the year and lower than last year's 5.6%. probably going to see about half a trillion dollars spent in holiday sales which seems like a lot but the number, the takeaway is less than last year. consumers and customers went gang busters on holiday sales. >> is this the possibility that the end of the year has seen the hurricane sandy issues and hit with that and also in the news cycle, massacre in newtown? peoples' spirits might be on the
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downside. >> right. to be quite frank, i mean, america's emotionally spent and i don't think they necessarily feel that they want to spend money on themselves. given everything that's been happening. rather give that money to people in need. >> seeing a spike in donations, contributions, charitable contributions? >> i think people are taking that money and donating it to chair it ritable contributions don't feel like spending. >> talk about the fiscal cliff. the uncertainty to witness ticking down to the end of the year and the, you know, people say that we might be borrowing from the future to think about the paychecks but basically people across the country have to consider the fact that the paychecks might take a hit at the first of the year. >> right. absolutely. hampton was on earlier talking about what will happen to those paychecks in terms of paychecks if we go over the fiscal cliff and a real concern here f. you look at the consumer, ten points
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lower than in july and for december 72 points. in july, it was 82. so we're seeing the sentiment decline over the last couple of months. also, consumer confidence at the lowest it's been in five months so really seeing that kind of permeate over the last couple of months and especially goins forward and we have also seen some mild weather over the last couple of months so especially in the midwest and the northeast so i think that's going to have something to do with the fact consumers aren't spending that much. >> you would think that because thanksgiving, we think back to november, fell earlier this year. >> right. we had more time to spend. >> we had more money spending and would think that the number would be a little fluffier. >> you would think. think about what was happening in those 31 days where people supposed to spend. people were recovering from sandy. all we have been bombarded with is negative news and newtown and i think weighing on the minds of the american consumer more than
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we think. >> thank you. appreciate your time. president obama in hawaii with his family and fiscal cliff negotiations remain at this stand still. but could the president cut that trip short? we'll investigate after this. hi. i'm commander ayers here in afghanistan. i wanted to say to my mom, dad and sister in melbourne, florida, happy holidays and i love you and miss you. see you soon. [ male announcer ] how do you trade?
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team 4 committed suicide in afghanistan. 42-year-old navy commander job price died saturday. he was from pennsylvania. the 94-year-old man nelson mandela is spending christmas at a hospital. officials have reported that his health had steadily improved and still uncertain how well because of his age. more evidence of global warming. meteorologists saying temperatures in west antarctica warmed twice as fast as the global average up more than four degrees since 1958 and adding to concerns of rising sea levels. while president obama is enjoying some sun and some relative relaxation in hawaii, last-ditch fiscal cliff talks await his return in washington this week. joining me with one of the luckiest assignments on earth, kristen welker. the beach has been filling up since the last time we got to
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speak. >> reporter: it has, thomas. a lot of people heading to the beach right now. not a bad assignment. you are absolutely right now. s a for the fiscal cliff talks, i'm told that there have been some fresh talks at the staff level but the hard work is not going to get done until lawmakers return to washington, that's expected to happen after the christmas holiday and at this point there's not a lot of time left and hopes for a grand bargain, president obama and house speaker boehner had been working on have all but evaporated right now. making sure that the steep tax hikes don't go in to effect. president obama on friday saying he would accept a deal as long as it does not allow taxes to go up on middle class americans, as long as it extends unemployment insurance and lays the groundwork for deficit reduction in the future. so there's sort of scaling back their expectations. house speaker boehner tried to
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get an alternative bill passed through the house last week. that failed. the focus shifts to the senate. reid and mcconnell will really be charged with trying to hammer out the fine details of that deal that can make it through the senate and through the house so that is the challenge moving forward. of course, president obama here in hawaii for his christmas cray case. he played some golf over the weekend. also, attended the memorial service for the late senator daniel inouye. thomas, on a much lighter note, he asked me had i taken my flip flops out last hour. i hadn't but i did since my work is wrapping up for you guys, flip flops are out and i'm ready to join those folks on the beach behind me. >> i'm very proud of you. i don't want to jinx this by talking about when you might have to pack but is there potential that the president may wrap up the vacation a little bit earlier than expected because of, say, harry reid and mitch mcconnell are able to work
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something out? >> reporter: i think that that is very likely. you heard president obama sort of signal that he's going to do that when he spoke on friday. he talked about the fact he'll be seeing everyone this week. we get the sense that he is prepared to cut the vacation short. i would not be surprised to see president obama heading back to washington, d.c. at the end of this week. thomas? >> set the sand on the soles as soon as you can. >> reporter: i will. >> merry christmas. thanks. >> reporter: you, too. there are senators on both sides of the aisle saying that the best hope before the new year is a small and temporary deal that will at least buy americans some time. >> i think there's unfortunately only a small deal. i think we'll get past it but we have to get to the big deal. >> we can't let taxes go up on working people in this country. it is going to be a patch because in four days we can't solve everything. >> all right. let's dig in and talk more. joining me is lynn sweet and bob
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cusa cusack. lynn, i want to start with you. we hear kay bailey hutchison saying to see a patch or a stop gap deal. is there the possibility of a little bit of a band-aid for most americans before the fiscal cliff? >> i think absolutely. and i think also congress can buy a little more time if because, you know, what this deadline is congressional imposed so the band-aid over to january 2nd, the vote counting, 60 senate, 218 in the house is really -- this is the fine tuning that's going on to get these two big numbers in the deals and, thomas, i think then we have to think to get the patch, will it be bet tore have it slop over to the new congress in january 3rd or have the lame duck votes? i think even a patch may be a
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tough vote unless it's very, very broad so you have a few alternatives to go but at least if you're thinking small not big, there's a way out. >> all right. so reversing that, bob, thinking big not small, is the white house hoping to achieve some type of grand deal or is that just out of window at this point with so little time left? >> yes, thomas. i think any hope of a grand bargain this month is out the window. and the heavy lifting will be done, i agree with lynn, in 2013. with entitlement reform and tax reform. but number one, can you get a deal within a week? can it pass the house and senate and is that good enough for the credit rating agencies? could we have another downgrade to the nation's credit? watch the markets this week. that's a factor. if the markets are rattled, that will move congress. >> the conventional wisdom in this is that the president gains
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a leverage in this in the new year and perception being reality, the republicans' brand takes a hit on this. is that the real case with the president gaining that leverage and diminish getting in to 2013? if everybody's taxes go up as a result of no action by congress, then everybody's brand takes a hit because you will have everybody yunited against the white house and congress but i believe that obama still has an upper hand here because he has shown in a sense -- i mean, one, he's more ability to help forge a deal. the republicans can't make up for the loss they have had in public perception over this tax and spending issue. it's too hard, too far to go. too much resistance from within their own ranks. >> talking about plan "b" and being the epic failure of not
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being sent to the floor for votes, does that take in to question whether or not john boehner could get anything done if over in the senate mitch mcconnell and harry reid craft something? >> no. it does raise the question. that was a blunder by republicans and boehner and obama were moving closer and boehner went and gambled and lost and now the pressure's on the senate. i think anyone that could pass the senate probably could pass the house because if it passes the senate, it's 10 to 20 republican senators. mitch mcconnell, up for re-election. will he craft a deal with harry reid? that's dicey. whatever bill is passed, may not be that popular. raising tax rates and probably cut back on benefits so, remains to be seen if they can get 60 in the senate and 218 in the house. but boehner may have to put that senate pass bill of the 250,000 obama plan, he says that doesn't have the votes topaz the house. he may have to prove that. >> real quickly i want to shift
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gears here and talk about chuck hagel and the potential of him being put up to the cabinet level position of secretary of defense. and getting criticism from the left and the right, chuck schumer declining to endorse him yesterday on meet the press. i want to play for everybody what andrea mitchell also said on "meet the press." >> this white house cannot continue to float trial balloons and then not have them shot down. the president can't perceived to being rolled by opponents. the problem of chuck hagel with support in the foreign policy community is shot at from the left and the right. >> i want to put it to you, both. is this the pattern where the trial balloons are getting defeated? first we have susan rice and that was arduous. until she took her name out of contention whatsoever. and now we see chuck hagel kind of going through the same thing on the onset. >> i agree with andrea's
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analysis. obama now is in a bad position if he does put forth hagel's name and a fight on the hands and then ask why bother? find someone else. >> bob, is that the same assessment you would give or does the president need to say, you know what? if this is the person that i want this is the person that i've got to go for and let the chips fall where they may? >> i think a big picture is president obama wants to lower the temperature in washington and why susan rice's names is withdrawn. that would have been a fight. i don't think he's seeking needless points and vowed to change washington. that didn't happen in the first term and tired of the showdowns and the fights with congress. i think he'll avoid them if he can and a bad sign for chuck hagel. he is hit from the left and the right. that's not a good sign. >> my thanks to both of you. lynn sweet, bob cusack. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> thanks, thomas.
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all right. so a sign of the times with this year's royal christmas. prince william will be spending the holiday not with his royal family at the middleton home with his wife kate and their family. the pregnant duchess was recently hospitalized for acute morning sickness and said that she wanted to be with her family for one last christmas before she becomes a new mom. all right. a hollywood ending. why a few senators are criticizing the movie "zero dark 30." why the movie about the raid that killed osama bin laden is drawing such fire. [ male announcer ] with over 50 delicious choices of green giant vegetables it's easy to eat like a giant... ♪ and feel like a green giant. ♪
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so that is a scene from the controversial new film "zero dark 30" about the hunt for osama bin laden and contains torture scenes and an implied connection of waterboarding of the cia and the information which led to the successful killing of bin laden. senators john mccain, carl levin and diane feinstein sent a letter to sony. amy davidson is a senior editor at "the new yorker" magazine and wrote a column about it. good to have you here. so the senators, they came out staunchly against the film after seeing it saying it's perpetu e perpetuating a myth. your assessment of the film? are they right that the movie takes a little creative liberty with the tortures a sne s s ss?
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>> it did and there was an open letter saying the head of the cia had deep troubles with the ill families and not accurate in the description of what torture did for the united states. the reason they felt the need to speak out was because this was billed as the big movie that the cia cooperated with and the pentagon. opens with recordings of people dying in the world trade center and saying it's based on actual accounts and saying it has that and then make the case we needed torture to keep us safe, that torture got us bin laden, you could see why that's department lie disturbing if as people who have seen the intelligence say it's not true. >> when we talk about senator mccain and all of us in the country know, of course, he is a war veteran and he was also a
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prisoner of war, and suffered through torture, during his time in the vietnam war, he said he felt sick watching the tortured men in the movie give up information about bin laden's courier. again, the movie claims this is based on firsthand accounts. so is the fact they took creative license the biggest point of contention? because they had facts but then now they have extrapolated dramatic essence from that to make the movie seem a little -- >> look. everybody expects them to take a dramatic license. the agents talk about dating and obviously there's dramatic license. the movie claims that the -- as a result of torture the cia learned the name of a courier, a key courier and that was the path to bin laden. there's intelligence saying they got it through other routes,
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from a detainee before he was tortured and what upset mccain is others and what they left out. they left out the real debate within the cia at the time about whether this was the best route, whether there were other ways to get the information and about whether it was morally wrong. in the movie, no cia agents are troubled by what they're doing except in saying it's a long day or -- but in reality, for example, in the movie, a detainee in put a box is size of a coffin and locked in it. and the agents on the scene are depicted as okay with that. in real life, when that happened a fbi agent who was on the scene had a fit, began yelling at the agents, threatened to have them arrested and said this isn't the way we do this or the way americans do this. so really dramatic confrontations about the moral issues that were going on there. >> is there anything that the senators in writing this, have they asked for anything in return? >> they have.
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they have asked that sony make it clear that it's fiction but what the senators really could do and the reason the movie is so powerful is so much is still classified so all we have is the movie. we have the movie giving us sort of a window on something we haven't seen and they could get more declassified. >> amy davidson, thanks so much. great to see you. it's looking like christmas here at 30 rock. more about that after break. ] you know exactly what it takes to make them feel better. ♪ you make me happy [ female announcer ] that's why you choose children's tylenol. the same brand your mom trusted for you when you were young. ♪ how much i love you [ humming ] [ female announcer ] children's tylenol, the #1 brand of pain and fever relief recommended by pediatricians and used by moms decade after decade. [ humming ]
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